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of Liverpool the humiliation at Brighton was the Reds’ sixth loss in the Premier League this season, four more than all of last season. We react and see what’s wrong…
Liverpool’s worrying lack of form continued into the match against Brighton, where Roberto De Zerbi’s side lost heavily on the south coast.
Changing the formation from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1 was supposed to help control the game, but it had the opposite effect. Brighton crashed of Liverpool pressured too easily and then found themselves consistently outplayed by the Reds when their forwards took the ball.
Brighton’s first away defeat since 1961 leaves Liverpool seven points behind fourth-placed Newcastle and in desperate need of a spark to hopefully spark a comeback.
Here, Adam Beattie (@beatts94) and Patrick Allen (@P_Allen21) join Sam Millne (@sam_millne) to discuss Liverpool’s defeat and growing woes…
So what went wrong?
Adam: It would probably be faster to analyze what didn’t go wrong.
It was probably the most lifeless Liverpool game I’ve ever seen under Jurgen Klopp and his post-match comments seemed to echo that.
A loss to a fairly impressive Brighton, like what we saw on Saturday, is a result you can sometimes add to if you show fight, flashes, basic intelligence or at least some of the above.
SAM: You’re right. There was a complete lack of cohesion in moving forward, not to mention the issues that have spiraled out of control, which are even more acute.
Adam: How we suffered this defeat is the most important part of it all. For the first time, to be honest, I don’t see a track that doesn’t need rebuilding, which is really disastrous considering it’s only January and we have three races to go.
Klopp tried to change the formation but the personnel should have been different too?
Patrick: The staff had to be completely different, we are now at the point where changes are needed.
What’s wrong with starting with players like Doak, Carvalho and Baisetic? We are losing games and playing well below the level of these “seasoned professionals” who, of course, have served us well, but are not looking their best.
Sam: I was surprised to see that Keita did not start, given that his appearance from the bench brought something new to Liverpool’s game. Thiago, Henderson and Fabinho certainly had their chance in the top three, but I can see Klopp not having much to choose from.
Adam: I’m not sure the manager could do much differently from a personnel point of view given the injuries we’re getting at the moment, but I have to admit I’m struggling to imagine where Keita is getting his minutes , if he doesn’t start it. .
Then I was even more surprised that I didn’t see him come off the bench at half-time.
We weren’t really losing at that point, but if it had been judged the same as boxing, the writing was already on the wall and the referee might have wanted to step in sooner rather than later.
Almost everyone in the red shirt has disgraced themselves, but it is largely this set of players that has won everything from us, so to me the problems are much deeper than just changing a few rounds or bringing in one player from another place.
7 points behind Newcastle and no sign of life. Is there anything positive that says we can still make the top 4?
Patrick: I really don’t see it and it doesn’t even have anything to do with us.
Well, that’s true, but the teams around us also continue to do well. Manchester United, Brentford, Fulham and of course Brighton we’ve been winning games lately, but we’re just not.
Sam: In recent years you could always imagine Liverpool going on a winning streak with momentum behind them.
If the Champions League fails to breathe new life into this group of players, there seems little hope for it.
How could we fall behind so quickly from last season?
Patrick: One more point from me. The argument that we were just a few points behind City last season just doesn’t stand up to criticism. The players look finished, completely devoid of any confidence and ideas. Not good.
Adam: You’d have to say that’s a really big ask right now.
In terms of pure math, we’ve overcome more serious difficulties than this, but the performance just doesn’t give us absolutely anything to hold on to, as you mentioned.
Naturally, there will be a lot of talk about the midfielder everyone wants, but you could probably include the best Zidane in this game and see the same result. The lack of activity has left us with too much to do at once, and even if we move in with someone in January, it may already be too late.
Adam Lallana was allowed to leave 2.5 years ago as he entered his twilight years, but he still managed to run through our current crop.
If we’re going to get into the top four, then I don’t see what could act as a catalyst. There are still four months of football to go and we have no choice but to try to find some way out. Otherwise it will be boring as hell.
Would you like to make a lot of changes and if so, who should go up against Wolves?
Sam: I think Klopp needs to change something and leave the best players for Chelsea away.
Otherwise, what kind of signal does it send to non-starters if they can’t break through on a team that plays so poorly?
Patrick: Baisetic is coming, Doak is coming, Carvalho is coming and that’s the least of it.
Let the guys who have something to prove start, not the ones who seem to have run out of gas.
Adam: I would probably take another look Doak, because I’m extremely encouraged by what I’ve seen from him so far, but on the other hand, it’s a terrible time to try to integrate such an incredible talent while everything around him feels so flat.
Right now I’d prioritize winning Wolverhampton and trying to pay back Chelsea more than anything else, but I’d also totally understand if Klopp decided to make big changes.
Sam: I would agree in the sense that you have nothing to lose by playing someone like Doak. He is not burdened by the mistakes of last season and will hopefully be able to play freely, even if it is not his preferred right-back position.
Adam: It might not be what some people want to hear but as it stands the FA Cup is probably our best chance of winning trophies and to be honest another defeat on Tuesday could be a disaster for confidence levels , which already looks fragile.
First of all, we have to approach Wolves with a better plan than we did against Brighton. If we get a positive result with the game in question then I’d leave things relatively the same for Chelsea because absolutely nobody should be immune from being left out of the picture at the moment.
Patrick: Honestly, I don’t see Liverpool we go through it no matter who we start with so I feel like it’s time to change a lot or as often as possible.
of Liverpool the humiliation at Brighton was the Reds’ sixth loss in the Premier League this season, four more than all of last season. We react and see what’s wrong…
Liverpool’s worrying lack of form continued into the match against Brighton, where Roberto De Zerbi’s side lost heavily on the south coast.
Changing the formation from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1 was supposed to help control the game, but it had the opposite effect. Brighton crashed of Liverpool pressured too easily and then found themselves consistently outplayed by the Reds when their forwards took the ball.
Brighton’s first away defeat since 1961 leaves Liverpool seven points behind fourth-placed Newcastle and in desperate need of a spark to hopefully spark a comeback.
Here, Adam Beattie (@beatts94) and Patrick Allen (@P_Allen21) join Sam Millne (@sam_millne) to discuss Liverpool’s defeat and growing woes…
So what went wrong?
Adam: It would probably be faster to analyze what didn’t go wrong.
It was probably the most lifeless Liverpool game I’ve ever seen under Jurgen Klopp and his post-match comments seemed to echo that.
A loss to a fairly impressive Brighton, like what we saw on Saturday, is a result you can sometimes add to if you show fight, flashes, basic intelligence or at least some of the above.
SAM: You’re right. There was a complete lack of cohesion in moving forward, not to mention the issues that have spiraled out of control, which are even more acute.
Adam: How we suffered this defeat is the most important part of it all. For the first time, to be honest, I don’t see a track that doesn’t need rebuilding, which is really disastrous considering it’s only January and we have three races to go.
Klopp tried to change the formation but the personnel should have been different too?
Patrick: The staff had to be completely different, we are now at the point where changes are needed.
What’s wrong with starting with players like Doak, Carvalho and Baisetic? We are losing games and playing well below the level of these “seasoned professionals” who, of course, have served us well, but are not looking their best.
Sam: I was surprised to see that Keita did not start, given that his appearance from the bench brought something new to Liverpool’s game. Thiago, Henderson and Fabinho certainly had their chance in the top three, but I can see Klopp not having much to choose from.
Adam: I’m not sure the manager could do much differently from a personnel point of view given the injuries we’re getting at the moment, but I have to admit I’m struggling to imagine where Keita is getting his minutes , if he doesn’t start it. .
Then I was even more surprised that I didn’t see him come off the bench at half-time.
We weren’t really losing at that point, but if it had been judged the same as boxing, the writing was already on the wall and the referee might have wanted to step in sooner rather than later.
Almost everyone in the red shirt has disgraced themselves, but it is largely this set of players that has won everything from us, so to me the problems are much deeper than just changing a few rounds or bringing in one player from another place.
7 points behind Newcastle and no sign of life. Is there anything positive that says we can still make the top 4?
Patrick: I really don’t see it and it doesn’t even have anything to do with us.
Well, that’s true, but the teams around us also continue to do well. Manchester United, Brentford, Fulham and of course Brighton we’ve been winning games lately, but we’re just not.
Sam: In recent years you could always imagine Liverpool going on a winning streak with momentum behind them.
If the Champions League fails to breathe new life into this group of players, there seems little hope for it.
How could we fall behind so quickly from last season?
Patrick: One more point from me. The argument that we were just a few points behind City last season just doesn’t stand up to criticism. The players look finished, completely devoid of any confidence and ideas. Not good.
Adam: You’d have to say that’s a really big ask right now.
In terms of pure math, we’ve overcome more serious difficulties than this, but the performance just doesn’t give us absolutely anything to hold on to, as you mentioned.
Naturally, there will be a lot of talk about the midfielder everyone wants, but you could probably include the best Zidane in this game and see the same result. The lack of activity has left us with too much to do at once, and even if we move in with someone in January, it may already be too late.
Adam Lallana was allowed to leave 2.5 years ago as he entered his twilight years, but he still managed to run through our current crop.
If we’re going to get into the top four, then I don’t see what could act as a catalyst. There are still four months of football to go and we have no choice but to try to find some way out. Otherwise it will be boring as hell.
Would you like to make a lot of changes and if so, who should go up against Wolves?
Sam: I think Klopp needs to change something and leave the best players for Chelsea away.
Otherwise, what kind of signal does it send to non-starters if they can’t break through on a team that plays so poorly?
Patrick: Baisetic is coming, Doak is coming, Carvalho is coming and that’s the least of it.
Let the guys who have something to prove start, not the ones who seem to have run out of gas.
Adam: I would probably take another look Doak, because I’m extremely encouraged by what I’ve seen from him so far, but on the other hand, it’s a terrible time to try to integrate such an incredible talent while everything around him feels so flat.
Right now I’d prioritize winning Wolverhampton and trying to pay back Chelsea more than anything else, but I’d also totally understand if Klopp decided to make big changes.
Sam: I would agree in the sense that you have nothing to lose by playing someone like Doak. He is not burdened by the mistakes of last season and will hopefully be able to play freely, even if it is not his preferred right-back position.
Adam: It might not be what some people want to hear but as it stands the FA Cup is probably our best chance of winning trophies and to be honest another defeat on Tuesday could be a disaster for confidence levels , which already looks fragile.
First of all, we have to approach Wolves with a better plan than we did against Brighton. If we get a positive result with the game in question then I’d leave things relatively the same for Chelsea because absolutely nobody should be immune from being left out of the picture at the moment.
Patrick: Honestly, I don’t see Liverpool we go through it no matter who we start with so I feel like it’s time to change a lot or as often as possible.
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